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 Post subject: TJ V8 swap
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:35 am 
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Bought a V8 setup a couple month ago. Going to use the thread to keep track on how many years it takes me to actually do this.

Finally finished rebuilding the back half of my garage so I now have room to work on my jeep in the main area.

Got the hood off and a few small things unhooked last night.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:44 pm 
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Sweet! Hope it's all smooth sailing for you. You have my number if anything is awry.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Good progress for a Tuesday evening after taking the washing machine apart and fixing it.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:38 pm 
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Cross member, driveshafts, linkages all off. Spinning nut in frame for cross member cost me 20-30 minutes :(

Still trying to decide if I want to pull engine/trans/tcase all together or if it would be easier to take at least the t-case off the back.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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I would at least pull the t case off to make it a little easier. For me it seemed to add just enough weight on the back to fight me....Glad to see your making progress on this thing. :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:07 pm 
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Definitely pull the t-case. It'll be easier.

Are you running a 231 behind the 46RE? Did you have a 4.0 with a 23 spline input? I think I have a Dodge 6 pinion input somewhere if you want it.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Definitely pull the t-case. It'll be easier.

Are you running a 231 behind the 46RE? Did you have a 4.0 with a 23 spline input? I think I have a Dodge 6 pinion input somewhere if you want it.


Yes 231, pretty sure its 23 spline already...

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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If you're going to pull the T-case, wouldn't it be just as easy to pull the trans and t-case all as one?

That way you wouldn't have to fight the trans coming out either. :dunno:


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Cross member, driveshafts, linkages all off. Spinning nut in frame for cross member cost me 20-30 minutes :(

Still trying to decide if I want to pull engine/trans/tcase all together or if it would be easier to take at least the t-case off the back.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Why'd you name it the Washing Machine? :f2:

Because it's about to take him to the cleaners. :roflmao: :roflmao: :spend

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Pulled it all out this morning.

Thank goodness my garage ceiling was not an inch shorter.

Need to change the plug on my house or build an adapter then it's time to cut and weld in some motor mounts.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Made an adapter plug for plasma cutter and welder to plug into my house.

Then did a few minutes of cutting.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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After today I definitely wondered once or twice if I am in over my head. While it's all in I have found many challenges I will have to overcome.

Motor ready to go in.

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Stabbing it all together as I took it out.

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Burning the mounts on after way to much over thinking.

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Engine bolted in. Working on wiring.

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Helpers showed up and all progress stopped. But had fun watching them "work" while a sipped on a beer.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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How is it swapping stuff into Jeeps? I've got a JK, that I'd really like to get away from the 3.8L motor, and look at a 5.7L or possibly something else. Nobody really goes over what these installs need. I've done quite a few engine installs, but mostly foreign stuff.

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How is it swapping stuff into Jeeps? I've got a JK, that I'd really like to get away from the 3.8L motor, and look at a 5.7L or possibly something else. Nobody really goes over what these installs need. I've done quite a few engine installs, but mostly foreign stuff.

Good luck with your install.


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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Started it today to make sure everything was hooked up and working before I begin full assembly.

Also learned I have factory security (SKIM) and that by turning the key on with that plugged in I ruined the non-security PCM (vehicle runs, just have to jump the starter with a screwdriver).

So now that its unplugged it is time for a new non-security PCM or to find someone to re-flash it to non-security again.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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No exciting news. Been staring at it for a week looking at clearance issues.

Just dropped some $$ on most of the parts needed to finish the job (radiator, headers, trans and p/s coolers). Have a few days off next week, hoping to make some progress. :rock: :rock: :spend :spend :spend

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Been staring at it for a week looking at clearance issues.

What are your clearance issues?

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Been staring at it for a week looking at clearance issues.

What are your clearance issues?


Upper link can only go up 3/4" before it hits the starter. I talked with Paul, he said I can move it left to right with out jacking up my suspension geometry as long as I don't go up and down with it. So according to my measurements with a broom stick I should be able to just move it to the far side (drivers) of my truss and hopefully it tucks between my starter and motor mount.

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Been staring at it for a week looking at clearance issues.

What are your clearance issues?


Upper link can only go up 3/4" before it hits the starter. I talked with Paul, he said I can move it left to right with out jacking up my suspension geometry as long as I don't go up and down with it. So according to my measurements with a broom stick I should be able to just move it to the far side (drivers) of my truss and hopefully it tucks between my starter and motor mount.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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Hard to tell in your picture, but can you just change to a Powermaster starter that is clockable and rotate the solenoid towards the oil pan? That might allow enough room to not re-engineer the upper arm.


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Hard to tell in your picture, but can you just change to a Powermaster starter that is clockable and rotate the solenoid towards the oil pan? That might allow enough room to not re-engineer the upper arm.


I would love to just change the starter, I just have not found anything online that would for sure work for me yet.

I will try and find the one you are talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: TJ V8 swap
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I was just looking in their catalog. Either part # 9513 or 9523 is what I was thinking. Not sure that there is enough adjustment to make a difference though. A lot of their starters are 360` clockable, although the images in their catalog for the mopar starters doesn't appear that way. It might be worth a phone call to their tech department.


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