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 Post subject: 1990 Comanche build.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:55 pm 
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I have been wanting to share my comanche build for awhile now and I have done a lot to it already. I will share what I have done so far and will post from now on its progress.

So I can not find a picture of this thing yet from when I got it. The Comanche started its life as a 2wd long bed automatic. when I found it it had a blown head gasket, the engine looked like chocolate milk inside of it. The transmision had one of the gears bad but who cares it was going to be going to the scrap pile. the rear end was a dana 35.

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Stock rear picture.
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Here is a pic of it on the jack stands 23 September 2016
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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:33 pm 
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So some of the first things to go was the old body panels that i was not going to be keeping. I wanted to swap that passenger door that was smashed and a 97+ front end swap. In the process of looking for doors I found a pair of a 98 that has power windows and does not have that small wing sized window. I picked those up but ran into the trouble of mounting them due to the latch changed in 97 also.

Here is pictures of the front end.Image

Best of what I have of the passenger door right now the also have the driver door but it isn't mounted yet.
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Axels were my next big issue. I did not want to go full width axels on it. My plans first started with using a ford 8.8 limited slip rear end out of an explorer and find a dana 30 front with matching gears. Well after I got my new 8.8 home after i pulled it from the junk yard I found it had a bad axle shaft and a bent caliper mounting flange. I went back to the junk yard and they could only refund my money if i returned the whole axle. During this time I could not find a dana 30 with matching 4:10 gears.

A few weeks latter a set of jk axles showed up on craigslist its a 44rear and 30front with 3.73 gears. I picked up the pair with a bunch of stock control arms and track bars.
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After cutting most of the jk brackets off of the rear end its now under the jeep.
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I did a spring over swap to gain my lift for the rear.
(I know the shocks are not mounted yet on the rear.)

The front axle I had this idea that if I use the rear lower control arms from the jeep JK and the upper front control arms of the jeep JK pile of parts I have I would have a set of control arms that are 3" longer then the stock MJ control arms. This would give me a greater approach angle and new bushings for the front end for freeeeeeeeeee.
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The major issues are right now is the spring buckets are placed 1.5" wider then the MJ so they need to be moved. The track bar frame mount needs to be moved forward. The lower control arms come in at an angle as opposed to straight on the MJ. The axle is underneath the jeep with everything getting mocked up. The spring buckets are cut off and I'm trying to use the JK track bar.Image

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:46 pm 
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Working on the grill today since its Friday I am going to be finishing it tomorrow.
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Since in 1997 the XJ changed the wiring a bit and the MJ was never made that late here is what I had to do.

1990 Comanche original wiring plug for the headlightsImage

And here is the XJ 97and newer plug Image

First thing I did was remove the two amber light housings the one for the side and the front one for the turn signal.
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Next was to strip out all the wiring from the XJ wiring. then to cut it apart to remove the two turn signal wiring for both sides. You could just add one more turn signal to each side. I did not want to do that since then you will have another set of different bulbs then the newer ones.

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Here is the wiring differences, you have the old style (black gray blue) and the new style (black green brown). The turn signals have a high and a low light. To make it work correctly this is how each is wired.

New style 97 and newer cherokees
Black (ground)
Green (high which is the blinker)
Brown (low that one is your running lights)

Old style 96 and older cherokees and 92 and older comanches
Black (ground)
Gray (high which is the blinker)
Blue (low that one is your running lights)

Connect the same type of wires together and your done. More pictures to come

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:34 pm 
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Looks like fun to me :rock:
Whatchu doing with that Wisconsin collector plate?? :brows:

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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Whatchu doing with that Wisconsin collector plate?? :brows:

I like where this headed. :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I see how it is.

I am in the army and I can register my vehicles in my home state. I just do it just in case I get pulled over for silly things like no mud flaps or how my exhaust dumps under the bed so i can confuse them and say its legal in Wisconsin. Plus its a one time fee for life.

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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Finished up the wiring of the head light harness. I checked it but i want to clean some of the old paint off of the headlight panel

Here is the pile of whats left.
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soldered and heat shrieked.
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front of the jeep currently

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:31 pm 
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for a little motivation I put the wheels and tires on the rear to give me an idea of how this thing will be looking. I will be cutting the fender out in both the front and rear to give it more clearance.

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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Its been a few months but I am still working on it I'm going to try to catch it up to where I'm at today.

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thats the shock tabs getting mounted to the tube. Thanks to the guys from Northridge4x4 to have some builder parts in stock


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After a long wait for spring buckets from poly performance i was able to set the springs in place to get an idea what it will look like

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decided to roll her into the garage to get work accomplished in the winter time.

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and here she is currently sitting.

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I did a long time ago throw away the bench seat in hopes to find bucket seats. I did find a guy with a set of bucket seats from his rolled comanche. After waiting 2 months I gave up on him. I did find a guy parting out a 91 2door cherokee. I jumped on the these seats when he said the pair is only $40. If anyone is interested in that swap feel free to ask any questions you need to find the right sliders with the right seats and if your lucky 2 door seats so they can fold forward to get behind them when you need to.


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After I stalled the seats it was time to pull them right back out to finally fix the only spot of rust on the jeep. As i ground down the rust to get to steel to have something to weld to the hole got bigger and bigger until it ended up like this.

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Neighbor welding. I haven't learned yet.
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I hope I seem sealed it good enough.
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I think it turned out ok for a wheeler.
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I ordered that carpet kit off of JCwhitney.com looks pretty good and I'm pretty happy with the fit so far.
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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I did learn this little this little trick on older cherokees and comanches older then 1991. Its super easy to roll back the odometer. Now before people get crazy about how they think its illegal, it isn't. Now if my intent is to fool someone into thinking that my 1990 comanche thats beat to death has zero miles it would be. my intentions is I might as well have 0 miles since I swapped both the motor and the gauge cluster.

Here is some photos on how to do this but there is a little c clip on the back of the odometer and if you remove that you can slide the numbers away from each other and spin them to what you want.

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Here is the end result and no thats not my mikes hard lemonade.
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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:08 am 
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interior shots of the recovered headliner
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The interior is almost finished
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I picked up another cherokee for a donor for a few parts and then selling it off
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I had to roll the comanche out of the garage the other day to work on the wrangler but i thought this was a good shot of the two together.Image

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I got around to swapping the parts to make it look about the same white color.
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The guys at Mule Expedition hooked me up with a bunch of good stock Jk parts that I need for this build

Thanks Phil
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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I wished more people would put input to my build thread. I am building this jeep out of the love of building project vehicles and I already have a pretty bullet proof jeep wrangler. If you have thoughts or ideas that can make this better please leave your input on this thread. If you have worth while parts or want to do some fab work I have no issues supporting your company on the side of this jeep.

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I've always liked the late model XJ front ends grafted onto MJs, nice work!

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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Did you recover the headliner yourself? If so, got any tips or a quick write up?

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I did not recover it myself. I think the headliner wouldn't be to bad to do. But to get the visors to match is the hard part. I took it to a local shop It cost about $200 for them to order the fabric and do the work but anyways the end result is great.

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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After the front end swap I found another forum member that wanted the cherokee (outlawjeeper). He needed the drivetrain and I just wanted the front end.
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So back to ideas to continue this build without throwing to much money at it. Im kinda thinking of mounting a power tank here and one of those cool guy angle spare tire carriers in the bed of the truck
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Other then that progress has been pretty slow. These are the major issues that need to be finished
1. front end everything, control arms, track bar, drag link all need to be figured out.
2. Breaks, I'm going to be using stock JK break lines in the front and rear since they are a lot longer then MJ break lines only thing is I need to run some hard line in the back to either side.
3. Front drive line, Once the front end is in a happy place I will need to have the stock one resized or a new one made.
4. Coolant bottle mounted

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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Since this truck isn't a truck I will have to worry about hauling stuff with I figure I can waste some bed space for some off road flare like a angled tire carrier.

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For some reason I always wanted one because I thought they looked cool. Hopefully I will find something solid underneath to mount to.

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:03 am 
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A while back someone on here was selling big beefy mounts for power tank sized bottles. I bought one because I thought I needed it. You are welcome to it for your mount if you want it. I've been kicking it around my shed for a couple years now. Let me know if you're interested. I have a couple old scuba tanks too if you need spare CO2 bottles. I've been meaning to sell them but dont know their value.


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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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Yeah I wanna check out that mount.

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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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Here's a link to one that looks identical.
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 Post subject: Re: 1990 Comanche build.
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I have a 10 lb tank. i wanna say just as long it isn't the 5lb all the tanks are the same diameter they just get longer. I'm not positive of that.

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