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E - 1 in each corner, so no matter which end you pick it up from (closed), you have half the egg mass directly in your hand and it's evenly weighted to the perimeter.

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E - 1 in each corner, so no matter which end you pick it up from (closed), you have half the egg mass directly in your hand and it's evenly weighted to the perimeter.


If this were the correct answer, B and D would also be correct because configurations B, D and E would result in the same center of mass for the system. I think B is the answer. If configured like B and 1 egg is removed, it would have the least effect on the center of mass of the system. If two eggs are to be removed, an OCD individual would remove the egg diagonal to the first egg removed, which would result in only a decrease, and not movement of, the center of mass of the system.

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E - 1 in each corner, so no matter which end you pick it up from (closed), you have half the egg mass directly in your hand and it's evenly weighted to the perimeter.


If this were the correct answer, B and D would also be correct because configurations B, D and E would result in the same center of mass for the system.

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Center of mass would indeed be the same, but weight distribution (v important IMO) is very different. Neither B nor D put egg weight in your hand if you pick it up from the end (which is pretty typical pulling the carton from the fridge.) E puts 50% of the egg weight directly in your hand (no matter which end you pick it up from) instead of 100% of the egg weight out past your fingers. E - final answer. :mrgreen:

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Who the fawk leaves four eggs? I have a family of six, I cook a carton at a time. :p

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E - 1 in each corner, so no matter which end you pick it up from (closed), you have half the egg mass directly in your hand and it's evenly weighted to the perimeter.


If this were the correct answer, B and D would also be correct because configurations B, D and E would result in the same center of mass for the system.

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Center of mass would indeed be the same, but weight distribution (v important IMO) is very different. Neither B nor D put egg weight in your hand if you pick it up from the end (which is pretty typical pulling the carton from the fridge.) E puts 50% of the egg weight directly in your hand (no matter which end you pick it up from) instead of 100% of the egg weight out past your fingers. E - final answer. :mrgreen:


Sorry, but this is wrong. You have to take into account the entire system. For E two eggs may be in your hand, but the moment caused by the two eggs on the far end will make it feel the exact same as B, or even D.

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Sorry, but this is wrong. You have to take into account the entire system. For E two eggs may be in your hand, but the moment caused by the two eggs on the far end will make it feel the exact same as B, or even D.

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Disagree. Your finger tips become the pivot point once you pick it up. With 2 eggs and your opposing thumb behind the pivot point, it's much easier to leverage the 2 eggs at the other end. With B or D none of the eggs are behind the pivot point, so you're leveraging twice as much mass out past the pivot point. In both scenarios the center of mass is in the same spot, but weight distribution fore/aft of the pivot point is the difference. One person scooting a little further out on the teeter totter isn't the same as adding another person to that side...

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Sorry, but this is wrong. You have to take into account the entire system. For E two eggs may be in your hand, but the moment caused by the two eggs on the far end will make it feel the exact same as B, or even D.

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Disagree. Your finger tips become the pivot point once you pick it up. With 2 eggs and your opposing thumb behind the pivot point, it's much easier to leverage the 2 eggs at the other end. With B or D none of the eggs are behind the pivot point, so you're leveraging twice as much mass out past the pivot point. In both scenarios the center of mass is in the same spot, but weight distribution fore/aft of the pivot point is the difference. One person scooting a little further out on the teeter totter isn't the same as adding another person to that side...


I have to agree with the "Doctor" here, not because I give two shits about 4 eggs, but because of his deep knowledge of being the pivot point in many different situations. :f2: :eek2: :eek2:

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dr drae wrote:
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Sorry, but this is wrong. You have to take into account the entire system. For E two eggs may be in your hand, but the moment caused by the two eggs on the far end will make it feel the exact same as B, or even D.

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Disagree. Your finger tips become the pivot point once you pick it up. With 2 eggs and your opposing thumb behind the pivot point, it's much easier to leverage the 2 eggs at the other end. With B or D none of the eggs are behind the pivot point, so you're leveraging twice as much mass out past the pivot point. In both scenarios the center of mass is in the same spot, but weight distribution fore/aft of the pivot point is the difference. One person scooting a little further out on the teeter totter isn't the same as adding another person to that side...


If we’re moving the fulcrum from the end of that carton, you’re correct. Though, what hasn’t been addressed is what orientation would the carton be when an OCD individual puts it away in the fridge, effecting where and how it is initially grabbed to be removed. I think the carton should be placed in the fridge in the orientation that is displayed in the pictures, minimizing any moment and rendering B, D and E all equal. Maybe there should be an F, where all 4 eggs are put along the opening edge and that opening edge be facing out of the fridge, where it will initial be grabbed.

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Is it correct to pick up a carton of eggs from the end, or from the middle. Until we agree on that, we can't finish the debate above.

Torque is the cross product of the position vector of the point where the force is applied distance vector and the force vector, which tends to produce rotation.
You minimize the torque, which is trying to spill your 4 eggs, if you pick it up in the middle.

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I think the carton should be placed in the fridge in the orientation that is displayed in the pictures
I think you're wrong again. :mrgreen:

The orientation in the picture is not the right way to put it away, it takes up way to much 'front edge of the shelf' real estate. If it's in that orientation at the back of the shelf it's hard to get, and if it's in the front it's too easy to knock off the shelf reaching for something behind it. 90* to that picture is the best way as it's still readily accessible from the front edge of the shelf, while at minimal risk of easily being knocked off b/c there wouldn't likely be anything behind it. Hence, perimeter weighting is best. ;)

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