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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:39 pm 
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I had a great day thanks to everyone that came out to play. Now post up your pics while I go figure out how to fix my door. :thumbsup:

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My wife and I had a great time with all of you. Thanks for letting us tag along, if anybody wants to go again and hit the busy I'd love to go.
Pretty glad we called it after alder, got to the trailer and found the ball joint at the pitman falling apart and hanging by a thread.
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It seems that the stump that I lightly touched on my passenger door screwed up the rods on the inside of the door because it doesn't open from the inside or outside. :roflmao: :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:59 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:37 pm 
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It seems that the stump that I lightly touched on my passenger door screwed up the rods on the inside of the door because it doesn't open from the inside or outside. :roflmao: :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:13 pm 
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beyatch wrote:
MikeM wrote:
It seems that the stump that I lightly touched on my passenger door screwed up the rods on the inside of the door because it doesn't open from the inside or outside. :roflmao: :thumbsup:

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He seemed less than thrilled about that situation. :peep:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:51 am 
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and just to add to the trip report.....we were asked by Nancy if we all had our Discover Passes, one for tow vehicle and one for 4x4. A few of use went back to the gas station for one. This whole conversation just really bothered me and I did some research when I got home. It's one pass for two vehicles, it says so directly on the website

One pass, two vehicles: The annual Discover Pass is transferable between two vehicles. Simply write both plate numbers on the pass. The pass can only be used on one vehicle at a time. http://www.discoverpass.wa.gov/31/About-the-Pass

Don't be bullied into two passes, it's BS :nono:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:17 am 
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and just to add to the trip report.....we were asked by Nancy if we all had our Discover Passes, one for tow vehicle and one for 4x4. A few of use went back to the gas station for one. This whole conversation just really bothered me and I did some research when I got home. It's one pass for two vehicles, it says so directly on the website

One pass, two vehicles: The annual Discover Pass is transferable between two vehicles. Simply write both plate numbers on the pass. The pass can only be used on one vehicle at a time. http://www.discoverpass.wa.gov/31/About-the-Pass

Don't be bullied into two passes, it's BS :nono:


...it's only good for 1 vehicle at a time.

EDIT: If you really want to push their buttons, dual register your tow rig and 4x4 rig. ORV tabbed rigs at an ORV park do not need a Discover Pass. The DNR will tell you that a street licensed vehicle must have a pass. However, we interpret the law differently and have proven it in court. A user at Tahuya had a dual registered van that he transported his dirtbike in...he was given a ticket for no Discover Pass and had the ticket dropped when he went to court.

It is something WOHVA is trying to get clarified by the State Legislature. SB 5627

Here is a press release we issued in NOV 2015...

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Good news for owners of vehicles dual registered as ORV and street plated from the WA Appellate Court.

The DNR had appealed a case concerning a dual registered pickup truck cited for not having a Discover Pass in an ORV Area on DNR land. As written the law does not require a Discover Pass for ORV tagged vehicles in ORV areas regardless of whether or not they have a street license plate. The DNR has been claiming any ORV with a street license also has to have a Discover Pass and has been issuing tickets to ORVs in ORV areas on DNR land if they have a street license plate. However they had previously lost two cases on their misinterpretation of the law in Mason County Superior Court.

There have now been two Superior Court and one Appellate Court losses for the DNR on the Discover Pass versus ORV permit issue for dual registered vehicles, i.e. those with two registrations, one for ORV and one for a street license.

The Appellate Court found that the State failed to demonstrate that their appeal of the Superior Court ruling on the case qualifies for review.

WOHVA and the NMA have been trying to get the WA DNR to properly interpret and enforce the current law ever since it was passed by the legislature and signed into law by the Governor.

Perhaps the DNR’s Law Enforcement Chief (360-902-1698. larry.raedel@dnr.wa.gov.) will finally properly interpret the law and instruct his officers to operate accordingly so their enforcement actions align correctly with the law instead of breaking the law as they have currently been doing?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:36 am 
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I too would take it all the way to court. It's double dipping.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:42 am 
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I too would take it all the way to court. It's double dipping.


Agreed, but it's pretty plainly spelled out that it's for one vehicle at a time.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:44 am 
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I too would take it all the way to court. It's double dipping.


Agreed, but it's pretty plainly spelled out that it's for one vehicle at a time.



And that's why I don't park at the Elbe Trailhead....dumb

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:15 am 
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beyatch wrote:
and just to add to the trip report.....we were asked by Nancy if we all had our Discover Passes, one for tow vehicle and one for 4x4. A few of use went back to the gas station for one. This whole conversation just really bothered me and I did some research when I got home. It's one pass for two vehicles, it says so directly on the website

One pass, two vehicles: The annual Discover Pass is transferable between two vehicles. Simply write both plate numbers on the pass. The pass can only be used on one vehicle at a time. http://www.discoverpass.wa.gov/31/About-the-Pass

Don't be bullied into two passes, it's BS :nono:



When the Discover Pass originally came out I had a discussion about this with several County Rangers (Both Cle Elum and Yakima) to discuss this specifically to make sure I was displaying the correct pass in the correct location. They all agreed at the time that if you park a tow rig at a trail head the Discovery Pass goes in the tow rig (This was specifically for Evan's Creek and both sides of Nachees and Manashstash). The trailered vehicle doesn't need a Discovery Pass. I have yet to hear anything counter to this until this post so did something change or am I miss understanding the issue or discussion?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:36 am 
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When the Discover Pass originally came out I had a discussion about this with several County Rangers (Both Cle Elum and Yakima) to discuss this specifically to make sure I was displaying the correct pass in the correct location. They all agreed at the time that if you park a tow rig at a trail head the Discovery Pass goes in the tow rig (This was specifically for Evan's Creek and both sides of Nachees and Manashstash). The trailered vehicle doesn't need a Discovery Pass. I have yet to hear anything counter to this until this post so did something change or am I miss understanding the issue or discussion?


You're confusing Discover Pass with NW Forest Pass. If you're talking about Evans Creek, it's the NW Forest Pass that's required and that gets left in tow rig.

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