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I have a 2005 F350 with the 6.0 in it. I really need a dually, but dont want ro drop the cash on a 6.7 truck yet

I want to get momma a new car, so Im thinking of getting a 2000 F350 crew cab with a V10 from a coworker and selling my truck.

Ive never driven one with a load, how do they do? My camper weighs 3400 lbs, and the Jeep/trailer weighs like 6k. With my diesel all loaded I weigh 19k total.

I know it wont do 60 up every hill like my diesel will, but if i have to drop to 35 mph on the highway passes, im going to blow a gasket. This would be for a year or two.

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My 2007 34' motorhome is a V10 on an E450 chassis. Runs up hills just fine as fast as I want to go, but I don't tow with it.

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They make good power, just not good on economy. It will likely pull the passes at the speed you want, while getting mid single digit MPG. :roflmao:

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They make good power, just not good on economy. It will likely pull the passes at the speed you want, while getting mid single digit MPG. :roflmao:



Yeah, I get the lower economy. As it is I'll get 9 on the real bad windy days with my 6.0. Normally 11 loaded, 16 unloaded.

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7.3?

huh?


Would he consider a Ford 7.3L diesel dually?

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7.3?

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Would he consider a Ford 7.3L diesel dually?


But that's not that his co-worker has for sale that he's asking about. :dunno:

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7.3?

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Would he consider a Ford 7.3L diesel dually?


Probably not. Unless you'll sell it for like $4k. :) Plus I need a crew cab.

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trophygirl wrote:
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trophygirl wrote:
7.3?

huh?


Would he consider a Ford 7.3L diesel dually?


Probably not. Unless you'll sell it for like $4k. :) Plus I need a crew cab.


I don't have one. They don't make a crew cab dually?

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Avanteone wrote:
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7.3?

huh?


Would he consider a Ford 7.3L diesel dually?


But that's not that his co-worker has for sale that he's asking about. :dunno:


He would consider a 6.7 except for the price.

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That's the point. Paul is frugal.... he is trying to by the wife a shiny new car while still getting himself a dually. His buddies crew cab dually v10 is CHEAP.


My old boss had a V10 F350. He loved it and for the amount he drove it he couldn't see spending that much more on a diesel. I do know it had all the Banks stuff on it. The exhaust was a bit obnoxious though. It towed all his toys around plenty to eastern Oregon to ride. The only thing I ever heard him complain about was it NEVER passed a gas station.


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Yeah, I can buy this truck with the profit from selling my 2005. Buy momma her car, pay some shit off, then she said I can get a new truck for Hammers next year. We'll see the pricing on the 6.7s, may have to get a 6.4 or another 6.0.



I did a bunch of work for him on this truck, new steer box, new rear end, u-joints, etc. High miles, but I'm okay with that. Parts are cheap. It does have 3.73s in it, so I'm probably going to gear it to 4.30 or 4.56 so I can have some power back. It'll do me for the rest of this year. I'll probably keep it and turn it into a prerunner, who knows.

I'm going to miss my truck, though. :(

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id take a 6.0 over a 6.4 in a freaking heart beat.


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If I keep it untuned, what's wrong with the 6.4?

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I've had 2 V-10s and other than mpg they are great.

My motorhome flat tows my JKU everywhere. Combined they are 20k pounds and over 11 feet tall, so a headwind can be an issue.

It has 4.56s and other than the steepest passes it goes as fast as I could want, keeps the trans below 190, and the engine below 205.

Personally I think the higher rpm and lower torque is easier on transmissions.

Recent trip to Wenatchee showed 6.5 mpg.

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If I keep it untuned, what's wrong with the 6.4?


I would say primarily parts cost but labor is terrible too. With the siemens high pressure fuel system parts are extremely expensive, all the lines are one time use, and the cab has to come off for just about everything. Heads, turbo, oil cooler, high pressure fuel pump, any of the high pressure lines, pretty much any decent sized repair cabs coming off. They are just such a pain in the ass to work on.

Example, I had one truck a couple months back that came in hissing away like a cat, the back two manifold bolts were broken off in each head. We quoted something like up to 10 hours to ATTEMPT to extract them and if not it needs heads. spent 10 hours didn't even get the first one out. they are some weird super hard non-magnetic alloy.

He traded it in, and our sales dept accepted it in trade. Having a non-running truck they finally approved labor for heads like 3 months later. Cab comes off, do heads. One of the brand new heads had stuck valve, blew a rocker arm off and beat the lifter into submission. Cab comes back off, warrantied brand new head, all is good. I'm not shitting you it came in a week later throwing EOT/ECT correlation codes. Needed an oil cooler

Cab came off for a third time in 2 weeks. I had that cab off 3 times on one truck. That's probably at least 60hrs labor. Maybe 14 of it was covered by ford warranty due to faulty parts.

6.0 liter problems are well documented, but with the ones that are still on the road... the problems they have tend to be labor intensive, but a normal person can still actually work on them, an example of something that would deadline a 6 liter is a 5 cent dummy plug o-ring sure it takes 10 hours to get to, but if you are a home gamer you can fix it without losing your wallet on it. 6.4 you are paying twice the price for parts and its twice as labor intensive. If you don't have a 2 post you will hate life with the cab ON procedures.

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Well, those are good reasons to avoid the 6.4.

I don't mind the 6.0, hard part is to find a low mileage dually when the time comes. And 6.7 duallys are 30-40. May have to get one, though.

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