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Heading to Elbe Saturday the 19th meeting at the main parking lot at 9 a.m.

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Lone Wolf

... "And knowing is half the battle" G.I.JOE

If you plan to run the Busy I'm in. Me need more Busy.

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" He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not reason is a bigot. He that dares not reason is a slave. "

Andrew Carnegie

Sorry no Busy this time.

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Lone Wolf

... "And knowing is half the battle" G.I.JOE

I'm still in though. I think Jimmay is coming up too. If so I imagine we'll sneak off at some point to knock out the Busy.

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Andrew Carnegie

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Was a fun day. An early out of the ORVpark kinda day

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Cascade 4x4's & ElDorado Dust Devils

Why?

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Horus had transfer case issues. Mike lost a bolt on his drive line. Still a really fun day.

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Cascade 4x4's & ElDorado Dust Devils

I'm pretty sure my failed attempt at the Mainline tree jump hurt my transfer case. The side slap against the outside of the driver front wheel ring was vicious. Once again I'm very happy to have Johnny Joints at both ends of my front track bar to absorb those kinds of slams. The whine in low range has always been there with this particular case but it was notably worse after that attempt and became more so exponentially as the day wore on. It didn't want to shift anymore, particularly into either high range. By the time we were at Hillbilly it was banging out into neutral and no longer had any kind of detent between 2low and 4low. It had to be held in 4low when I needed it going back to the trailer.

Reason I say all this is I've not experienced a 231 just go downhill like this. I've had them snap in half around the case from the planets to the front output and get me back to the trailer. I've had one snap the back of my transmission case off and remain engaged to the trans output only by unwillingness of the rear drive shaft to collapse any further. That one got my through a couple more trails (didn't realize how muchbroken I was) and back to the trailer. Like the other two this one got me back to the trailer, but with the feeling of being on a timer. I love the 231 but it does have it's limits.

It was a good run anyway. Thanks to those who came out. Now I get to build and swap in another t-case and do a thorough go-through on the front axle before the big last run for the year coming up. Fun.

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" He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not reason is a bigot. He that dares not reason is a slave. "

Andrew Carnegie

Sounds like you need something a little stronger and with front dig capabilities

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I'm a ways away from that step. Dana 44 breaks were just downright getting old. These recent 231 failures have been amusing. Amusement is why I wheel so I don't want to upgrade myself out of such a good time.

Honestly, The first 231 to go had served in my old trail rig it's whole life as well as the first two years with the buggy. It's failure was due to front drive shaft bind. It turned out my front DS was also my limiting strap so the weight of the Dana 60 drooped out broke the case. The second one lived, it just killed the transmission. Now #2 is bad but likely rebuildable. Not a bad record for drivetrain parts in my rig really considering it's on it's second motor and transmission as well.

I've had a hard time with the idea of bolting more than twice the weight in transfer case onto the back of a very thin transmission case. This applies to most brands of auto transmission. The trans cases from the factory were all engineered with a thin lightweight chain driven t-case in mind. Then one day I broke the back of the transmission case off with the lightweight t-case, let alone a 150 pound chunk of aluminum billet packed with bombproof gears.

None of the mounting options I've seen for dealing with the issue do it for me. I'd rather save the money and keep considering my rig "done". No major changes since the front 60 was in and dialed. I just wheel the crap out of it and change the fluids now and then. It's been too good to mess with.

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" He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not reason is a bigot. He that dares not reason is a slave. "

Andrew Carnegie